Summary, calibrating the Tamron Triple Crown

I’m so lucky to have the complete set of f/2.8 G2 zoom from 15 to 200mm from Tamron, some will call it the Triple Crown. This set includes the SP 15-30 f/2.8 VC G2, SP 24-70 f/2.8 VC G2 and the SP 70-200 f/2.8 VC G2. A triple set of magnificent glass that compete with the 1st party lenses for about half of the price.

Although the awesome glass, they have given me countless hours of frustration and probably some new grey hairs on the way. Nothing wrong with the lenses, but the possibility to fine tune auto focus and to be able to alter the zero point of the focus in the lens with the Tap In Console, added with a dose of curiosity, raised new questions faster than I could find answers. One thing was consistency and repeatability of the calibration process, other was why do the zero-point move when closing the aperture, and how much does that matter in real life. So far, I’ve only found my solution on the first part.

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In this summary, as with the separate posts, I will not mention the sharpness, distortion, vignetting or any other “normal” review stuff.  This will only be about the calibration process. To help me with the calibration I’ve used mainly the Reikan Focal application that analyses each photo to find the sharpest out of a series ranging from -20 to +20 in the AF fine tune in-camera. I’ve also tried out some other solutions like Dot Tune and other more manual processes, but in this scale, I’ll argue that Reikan Focal does a much better job.

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Even before I started the calibration process with the 24-70 f/2.8 VC G2 and the 70-200 f/2.8 VC G2, I run into trouble more or less from the start. Both lenses back focused quite a bit a longest focal length at widest aperture. The calibration proved that, but getting repeatable results was difficult at the beginning. When I’ve done several runs to get perfect focus at zero, and I set up the next day, the result wasn’t consistent. Also, when I’ve calibrated at shortest and medium focus distance, when I went back to the shortest, it wasn’t even close to zero any more. Measuring the distances was done with a folding rule because the distance was mentioned clearly in the Tap In Utility. Even so, something didn’t add up!?

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Then I tried to find the right distance by looking at the focus window at the lens, because that was also shown in the Utility. Still no luck with coming back to previous calibrated distances. I tried the rule of thumb of 50 times the focal length that circulated online as a universal truth. Eh, nope, still not good. I tried to follow the calculated distance in Reikan Focal with no success. I spent hours upon hours to try to figure out what was going on. I sent several e-mails to Tamron around the world without even a plausible answer, I even sent some questions to a high profiled youtuber about the process without getting any answer at all! I seemingly had a simple question and felt I was hitting the head against the wall. I tried any solution I could think of until I finally saw the light in the end of the tunnel.

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The breakthrough came when I started using the reported distance embedded into the image file itself, found with Picture Information Extractor by Picmeta Systems (any EXIF reader would do, I guess). The camera doesn’t care about the distance I measure in the real life, nor does the lens. If the calibration point for the 70-200 at medium distance says 5 meters, the right point isn’t exactly at 5 meters, it is where the lens and camera THINK 5 meter is! Of course, it made so much sense!

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Finally I could get good and repeatability results at shortest and medium focus distances, but what about at infinity? Hm, could I use the moon? But the moon isn’t infinitely far away, but I couldn’t use a star, right? I never tried the moon or a star though, but what about a vertical mountain side with good contrast several kilometers away? Nope, not good. Then I tried some power cable masts far away, but still no go. I even tried a cell phone antenna without good results. More head scratching. I thought I’ve cracked the enigma when I found the solution for the other distances. What did I not see at the infinity mark? Hm, what does the reported distance from the camera say about the infinite distance? Eureka, finally there is was. Infinity wasn’t really infinite at all, just far enough. Like for the 70-200 it was just 100 meters at 200mm! Ok then, forget everything about infinity, but also forget about 100 meters in real life. What matters is how far away does the lens and camera think 100 meters are. My solution ended up to take several photos at increasing distances and then take a look at the reported distance in the image file using the before mentioned Picture Information Extractor. When I was sure I was into the “zone” of 100 meters, I stopped and made a mark on the ground. Far enough but not too far seems to be the rule that worked wonders.

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Ok, then it looked like I’ve solved it……until I started to do runs at different/smaller aperture and found the zero point move quite a bit depending on the aperture too! Sigh, it didn’t only move, but in a unpredictable manners as well!

So the next big question, at which aperture should you calibrate your lens? Now as we’ve seen that zero changes from +20 to -20 depending on aperture. Well that is not an easy answer, as I think it all depends on what you are using that particular lens for. I mean, at what focal length and aperture do you use your 24-70 lens? If you can figure that you, I think that should be the starting point for further calibration. But also, keep in mind if you calibrate at f/2.8, what will happen at f/5.6? Definitely not an easy task to make any of those lenses good at all focal lengths and all apertures, maybe the next generation will let us calibrate at all apertures and not only one?

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Things to remember to make the process easier:
Print the target on a non-glossy paper with the highest quality your printer can make.
Lit the target evenly and good, this is not a low light competition.
Make sure your target doesn’t get over exposed, especially outdoor, use manual or exposure compensation.
You need a tripod for your camera.
Be careful to not walk around the tripod during a run if your floor gives or sway.
Make a system to write down your numbers, it will be a lot after some time.

If you can’t come back and set up anew and get the same result the next day, you’ve done something wrong…

Relevant links:
Reikan Focal
Picmeta Systems

Tell me your experience with the calibration process and what worked out for you?

Thanks for visiting!

 

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4 thoughts on “Summary, calibrating the Tamron Triple Crown

  1. Hi Onehaug,
    i also am the proud owner of the 24-70mm G2 and 70-200mm G2. I have a Nikon D850. I experience the same as you when it came to calibration of both lenses. I have always used succesfully the Dot Tune Method, I take 12 readings and drop the one of the highest and one of the lowest readings then if the balance are within 3-4 points of each other average then out to get my final reading and set the camera to that. With a zoom lenses other then Tamron or Sigma I take the average at Minimum, Mid point and Highest focus point and if they are close I take the average of the three set camera to that, It has worked very good for me.
    However this time with the Tamron G2’s I to was in trouble from the beginning, the reading were not consistent, and all over the place. After three weeks of trying and getting nowhere, several web searches on the topic and no really true answers. I finally contacted Tamron Australia for answers. Their Sales Rep, contacted me and suggested that I contact their service center here in Australia. The service center advised it would be best that I return the lenses and my camera to be calibrated. I returned the camera and Lenses to the retailer who sent it to the service center. Three weeks later they were returned all calibation on the camera and lenses set to 0.
    What they did, The camera was outside the Nikon standard acceptable tolerance, they replaced the focus screen, with the lenses they were front focusing, they performed adjustments on the lenses software, then adjusted to match the Nikon D850. Result were excellent. All this was done under warranty with both the camera and Lenses.
    That was 12 months ago, with a Europe trip coming up, I thought I would recheck the calibration again. I brought Focal and ran it and I was getting some weird results, with the 24-70mm G2, needed a +16 adjustment at 24mm @ 1M (the 1mtr was the reading from the lens). I then invested in the SpyderLENSCAL, At 24mm and 1mtr SpyderLENSCAL confirmed it was spot-on. The one thing that became apparent was the camera and 24-70mm measure 1mtr differently 24mm to the 35mm, 50mm, and 70mm. 24mm was closer while the 35,50, and 70 were further away from the target.
    With Infinity, very confusing indeed, I have been told from different sources that I should use a different infinity distance at each focus point ie. 24mm x 50 = 1.2m, 35mm x 50 = 1.75 mtrs ect. However I used a “direction arrows at end of road sign” at 40mtrs with success. It is approx 750mm to 2mtrs high, a great height off the ground to focus on.
    Regards
    Glen

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  2. the reason you need to calibrate using the widest aperture (i.e., smallest f-stop number) is because that’s where you’ll get the narrowest depth of field. You want the d.o.f. to be as narrow as you can get it to make it easier to see where the point of aim diverges from the point of focus.

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    1. Appreciate your comment! Yeah I get that, but when using f/5.6, the focus point may diverge as much as 10-15 fine-tune points from what it was at f/2.8. That’s what upset me a bit, what if I have perfect focus at f/2.8 but most of the d.o.f is in front or behind at f/5.6? Hope that when Tamron releases G3 lenses that we can calibrate at largest, medium and smallest aperture as well. Or they make lenses without considerably focus shift…

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